Today I made the call to DeLorme to return my all-too-recently purchased PN-40SE and associated accessories. I was very eager for this GPS to take me by storm and impress me, but it did the opposite. The unit seemed to work perfectly (not counting USB connection to my laptop that I discuss below), but just about every aspect of it was less polished and less functional than my Garmin units (even the older GPSMap 60CSx). When thinking over the benefits of the PN-40SE that drew me to it in the first place, the things that came to mind were:
- The ability to download and view aerial imagery (and other datasets) on the unit
- Tri-axial compass
- Dual processors providing a step forward in redraw and routing speed
In reality, however, I found the limitations of the unit to far outweigh the benefits. Let me describe some of those frustrations:
- Limited POI functionality. You can add points as draw objects to a map, but I couldn’t find a way to search on them, and they contain no information other than name, symbol and location. More stunning to me was the fact that you must export them like you would a map exchange and you are limited to a block of area equal to roughly 1.5 degrees by 1.5 degrees. This means that I can’t load up all of the caches in my GSAK database, which covers all of Washington and North Idaho plus other areas, like on my Garmin. Instead, it would take something like 12 separate (and manual) exports to approach the same coverage.
- That same limitation on POIs is also seen when it comes to custom mapsets, like Northwest Trails. Yep, you can only export about 1.5 degrees x 1.5 degrees at a time. You can get it all in if you break it out into separate chunks, but it is a manual and time-consuming effort. Northwest Trails covers 6 states and 1 province; the number of divisions and exports that would be required to cover all of the data would be astounding.
- Only 1000 waypoints. This same issue is present with the 60CSx, but with the ability to handle unlimited POIs quickly and easily, the 60CSx makes up for that. My “home” GPX file that I export from GSAK for geocaching currently contains over 1300 caches + additional waypoints; I’d have to cull that severely to make things work with the PN-40. That doesn’t even take into account the POI database I have for work, home, friends’ houses, etc. Did I mention benchmarks, waymarks, terracaches, et al?
- Track recording on the PN-40 is limited to record by time or record by distance. There is no equivalent of the “auto” algorithm in Garmin that is pretty good at laying down points only when needed. I would have to either go by time and record many unnecessary/redundant track points (which makes editing tracks for inclusion into my trails database a pain), or go by distance and miss some important features in a trail such as tight switchbacks. Even then, the distance option would record many extraneous trackpoints.
- No geocaching functionality. I know that DeLorme has promised to deliver this by Christmas, but as of now, this is an issue. It is especially so given the lack of POI functionality.
- Poor USB interfacing. I continue to have problems getting the PN-40 to maintain a connection to my laptop, often in the middle of copying maps to the internal memory. When such a copy fails, I have to disconnect and start again, often after rebooting Windows.
- The painful, painful map upload process, caused by a program (Topo 7) that in my mind has always been poorly designed (the UI has been essentially unchanged for years) and is now trying to be “forced” into its role as the PN-40s map and waypoint manager.
- Slow (and poor) routing on the unit. I am not a real big fan of DeLorme’s routing software, so I didn’t expect the routing to be as good as NavTeq-based software packages, but I was at least expecting the PN-40 to route quickly. I found it much slower to route than my Garmins, and it does not recalculate when you go off the intended route, a fact that I find very shocking in this day and age.
In the end, I realize that I had unrealistic hopes for the PN-40, so I might have been setting myself up for disappointment. The idea of being able to visualize aerial imagery on my GPS had me more excited than just about any feature on a GPS in recent memory, but when I encountered the difficulties of downloading, packaging and transferring it to the unit that excitement was quickly tempered. That imagery also did not help much with navigating; in fact, I found I had to zoom in extremely close to avoid clutter that was actually distracting when navigating; there is something to be said for the approximations of your surroundings that vector maps provide.
I have to say that I’m disappointed at myself for not expecting this letdown and waiting to buy the PN-40 only after seeing extensive reviews. However, I was so concerned at getting Northwest Trails in shape for use with what looked to be like the “next coming” in GPS that I rushed into it. I also find it sad that I’m getting rid of a unit when I never ever got to really testing it for the basics of GPS functionality such as accuracy, performance under cover, or tracking of a trail through the mountains. Failures in this area, at least with early firmware releases, were what irritated me with the Garmin Colorado and opened the door to me trying another GPS manufacturer. However, I’ve learned that I’ve come to expect a certain level of quality features with my GPS as well, and in these areas the PN-40 was simply lacking in my opinion.
UPDATE 12/17/08: Apparently the PN-40 can auto-reroute, but this functionality is off by default. WTF? This is another of what I see as many nonsensical design decisions with this unit.
I’m sorry that things did not work out for you with the PN-40. Thank you for the detailed follow-up post. We are aware of the need to improve the process for transferring user data to the device and will use the information you’ve provided here as we move forward with this effort. Perhaps a future update notification will spark your curiosity and you can give DeLorme another look.
A side note, I don’t think I received any questions from you in e-mail, let me know if I’ve missed something. As I said at GC.com, I’m here to help if you need any info for creating PN-Series versions of your trail maps.
Thanks,
Chip Noble
Team DeLorme
By: Chip Noble - Design on December 16, 2008
at 9:58 PM
Hello,
Sad to hear the PN-40 did not meet your expectations. I have one coming for Christmas. I am not as sophisticated a user as you are, and am still hoping it will prove to be a good unit for me. I will be using it almost exclusively for geocaching. I hope the upcoming improvements and cache register widget will help.
Ken
DutchBoy
By: Ken Holland on December 17, 2008
at 7:22 AM
Thanks for another well written article Jon. I’ve always been a ‘Garmin boy’ as well, and have looked at the units by Magellan with a little skepticism, and even more for the lesser brands. I was also excited by the aerial photos feature on this unit, although I have to wonder if that’s more of a gee-whiz feature or something practical I would appreciate on an off-trail hike. I’ll keep my eye on reports by some friends who have it though and hope DeLorme can pull it all together. I only wish Garmin would build something with the features of the Colorado/Oregon units and the form factor and antenna options of the Garmin V.
By: Criminal on December 17, 2008
at 8:06 AM
In reading reviews like yours, I’m struck with how little I know about the sport and technology. I’m also unsure how many of the issues you ran into apply to my situation. Apologies in advance for this being long. I’ve tried to edit it down.
I currently have a Vista HCx and am to receive a PN-40 for Christmas. My primary interests in upgrading to the PN-40:
1) Mapping data updates. Fessing up to my neocaching nature: As far as I can determine, Garmin does not update their maps very often. Their map packages are $100 each, equivalent to three years of the Delorme subscription. That Delorme was offering a very reasonably priced subscription is very compelling. I like Delorme’s offering subsections for when I travel to new areas.
2) Supplement the mapping capability of the HCx. I have roads and Dairy Queens and Courthouses and stuff, but what I *really* want are bike trails and help with finding ways to get to a geocache. Delorme’s overhead views seemed like they would be helpful to determining an approach to a cache.
It was serendipitous that I stumbled upon your excellent trails maps a few days ago. (Issue solved a completely different way.)
3) Better handling of the different types of geocaches. I’ve made the classic neocacher mistake of seeing a nearby cache, then not finding it because it was, in fact, a mystery cache “not at the posted coordinates” or, a multi whose description is key to computing the other waypoints. Now I filter these out with GSAK.
As a visual cue, I’ve done some cache type remapping in GSAK, but found I couldn’t always remember that “a blue flag” meant microcache. Allanon pointed me to the use of customized icons. These are now happily mapped to the ones on geocaching.com.
(Issue sorta solved.. I need to tweak the colors for better contrast. I would *love* to go to paperless caching, especially in the Pacific Northwe’t.)
4) Improved user interface. I find I have to do a *lot* of clicking on the HCx to get to functions. The PN40 has a “find” button.
5) Competition. I’d like to see Delorme succeed in generating competition to Garmin (just because some competition is good).
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In your first posting about the map transfer times (“Of course, it took a while…”), I wonder if there’s something *I’m* doing wrong with my use of Garmin MapSource. Loading the northwest Metroguide maps, topos and your trail/building maps onto my Garmin HCx takes at least 90 minutes (despite Mapsource’s user interface dissonance that there are “5 minutes remaining”) for whatever processing Mapsource does to package it. (If I were to load, say, Texas from the DVDs, that part of the process would take *hours*. I usually start it before going to bed.) Once packaged, transferring takes at least 20+ minutes as it has to upload everything again. It sounds like your experience with the Colorado has been completely different?
(The loooooong transfer times with the Garmin have been tolerated only because I don’t frequently travel beyond the tri-state area. If I did, wiping the maps out each time – which I agree is a lame implementation – would force me to seek alternate solutions. (Maybe another $15 mSD card?))
Something I missed when I gave the heavy gift hints leading to the purchase was that the PN40’s geocaching mode is a *planned* firmware upgrade. I haven’t seen an estimated ship date. As I write this, there is a December 17 firmware update (v2.4) posted, but no mention of geocaching features. (They do mention improvements in connection.) The not-so-early-adopter in me wants to wait until other, more experienced people have put it through the wringers.
So right now, I have an unopened PN40 sitting under the tree. I’m not sure if I should return it and wait until it’s matured.
By: jim on December 20, 2008
at 1:49 PM